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# Voukoder transparent video export (2025-12-26 23:26Z)
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
using vokouder, which doesn't support webm or animated webp. how do I export a transparent video?
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_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
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Checking the workspace for relevant files or configuration.
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<tool-use data-tool-type="generic" data-tool-name="list_dir">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **list_dir** • Listed directory, 0 results</summary>
No results found
</details>
</tool-use>
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="search" data-tool-name="codebase_search">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **codebase_search** • Searched codebase "Voukoder video export transparency alpha channel configuration" • **10** results</summary>
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| `.gitattributes` | L52 |
| `.gitignore` | L125 |
| `.config/config.json` | L6 |
| `.gitattributes` | L48-114 |
| `.gitattributes` | L111-115 |
| `.specstory/.what-is-this.md` | L25-68 |
| `.specstory/.what-is-this.md` | L29 |
| `.config/GetStructDir.ps1` | L33 |
| `.specstory/.gitignore` | L10 |
| `.config/GetStructDir.ps1` | L27-68 |
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Since Voukoder doesn't support WebM or animated WebP, use these formats for transparent video:
## Best Options for Transparent Video in Voukoder:
### 1. **QuickTime (.mov) with PNG codec** (Recommended for lossless)
- In Voukoder's Video settings:
- **Codec**: Select "PNG" (if available) or "QuickTime PNG"
- **Container**: QuickTime (.mov)
- Supports full alpha channel transparency
- Lossless quality
### 2. **QuickTime (.mov) with ProRes 4444** (Best quality/size balance)
- **Codec**: ProRes 4444
- Supports alpha channel
- High quality with good compression
- Widely compatible
### 3. **QuickTime (.mov) with Animation codec** (Lossless alternative)
- **Codec**: Animation
- Full alpha support
- Lossless
- Larger file sizes
### 4. **AVI with PNG or Uncompressed codec**
- If QuickTime isn't available, AVI with PNG or uncompressed codecs can preserve alpha
## Steps in Voukoder:
1. Go to the **Output** tab in Voukoder
2. Set the container to **QuickTime (.mov)** or **AVI**
3. In the **Video** tab → **Encoder** tab, select a codec that supports alpha (PNG, ProRes 4444, or Animation)
4. Ensure your source has an alpha channel (transparent background)
5. Click **Apply** and **OK**
Note: The codec options depend on your Voukoder installation and available encoders. If you don't see PNG or ProRes 4444, check the **Options** or **Side data** tabs for alpha channel settings.
If you share which codecs you see in Voukoder, I can suggest the best option from your list.
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_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
use ffmpeg to re-export rainypet.mov as an animated webp with alpha.
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_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
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Checking for `rainypet.mov` and converting it to an animated WebP with alpha using ffmpeg.
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<tool-use data-tool-type="generic" data-tool-name="glob_file_search">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **glob_file_search** • Searched codebase "**/rainypet.mov" • **1** result in **1** directory</summary>
Directory: **\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew** (1 file)
| File |
|------|
| `rainypet\rainypet.mov` |
</details>
</tool-use>
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<tool-use data-tool-type="generic" data-tool-name="list_dir">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **list_dir** • Listed directory, 0 results</summary>
No results found
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Converting `rainypet.mov` to an animated WebP with alpha using ffmpeg.
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd rainypet && ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vcodec libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an -vsync 0 rainypet.webp</summary>
```bash
cd rainypet && ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vcodec libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an -vsync 0 rainypet.webp
```
```
Set-Location: C:\Users\Nathan\AppData\Local\Temp\ps-script-25fcae97-c8aa-435c-8896-e7739b8211e5.ps1:7
Line |
7 | cd rainypet &amp;&amp; ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vcodec libwebp -lossless 0 -co .
| ~~~~~~~~~~~
| Cannot find path 'C:\Users\Nathan\rainypet' because it does not exist.
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Using the correct path:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vcodec libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an -vsync 0 rainypet.webp</summary>
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vcodec libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an -vsync 0 rainypet.webp
```
```
ffmpeg version 8.0-essentials_build-www.gyan.dev Copyright (c) 2000-2025 the FFmpeg developers
built with gcc 15.2.0 (Rev8, Built by MSYS2 project)
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-static --disable-w32threads --disable-autodetect --enable-fontconfig --enable-iconv --enable-gnutls --enable-libxml2 --enable-gmp --enable-bzlib --enable-lzma --enable-zlib --enable-libsrt --enable-libssh --enable-libzmq --enable-avisynth --enable-sdl2 --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxvid --enable-libaom --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libvpx --enable-mediafoundation --enable-libass --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --enable-libharfbuzz --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvmaf --enable-libzimg --enable-amf --enable-cuda-llvm --enable-cuvid --enable-dxva2 --enable-d3d11va --enable-d3d12va --enable-ffnvcodec --enable-libvpl --enable-nvdec --enable-nvenc --enable-vaapi --enable-openal --enable-libgme --enable-libopenmpt --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libtheora --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libgsm --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopus --enable-libspeex --enable-libvorbis --enable-librubberband
libavutil 60. 8.100 / 60. 8.100
libavcodec 62. 11.100 / 62. 11.100
libavformat 62. 3.100 / 62. 3.100
libavdevice 62. 1.100 / 62. 1.100
libavfilter 11. 4.100 / 11. 4.100
libswscale 9. 1.100 / 9. 1.100
libswresample 6. 1.100 / 6. 1.100
-vsync is deprecated. Use -fps_mode
Passing a number to -vsync is deprecated, use a string argument as described in the manual.
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'rainypet.mov':
Metadata:
major_brand : qt
minor_version : 537199360
compatible_brands: qt
creation_time : 2025-12-26T23:39:29.000000Z
Duration: 00:00:00.87, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 777065 kb/s
Stream #0:0[0x1](eng): Video: prores (4444) (ap4h / 0x68347061), yuva444p12le(bt709, progressive), 2000x2000, 765850 kb/s, SAR 1:1 DAR 1:1, 60 fps, 60 tbr, 60 tbn (default)
Metadata:
creation_time : 2025-12-26T23:39:29.000000Z
handler_name : Apple Video Media Handler
vendor_id : appl
encoder : Apple ProRes 4444
timecode : 00:00:00:00
Stream #0:1[0x2](eng): Audio: pcm_s16le (sowt / 0x74776F73), 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s (default)
Metadata:
creation_time : 2025-12-26T23:39:29.000000Z
handler_name : Apple Sound Media Handler
vendor_id :
timecode : 00:00:00:00
Stream #0:2[0x3](eng): Data: none (tmcd / 0x64636D74), 0 kb/s (default)
Metadata:
creation_time : 2025-12-26T23:39:29.000000Z
handler_name : Time Code Media Handler
timecode : 00:00:00:00
Stream mapping:
Stream #0:0 -&gt; #0:0 (prores (native) -&gt; webp (libwebp))
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
Output #0, webp, to 'rainypet.webp':
Metadata:
major_brand : qt
minor_version : 537199360
compatible_brands: qt
encoder : Lavf62.3.100
Stream #0:0(eng): Video: webp, yuva420p(tv, bt709, progressive), 2000x2000 [SAR 1:1 DAR 1:1], q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 60 fps, 1k tbn (default)
Metadata:
encoder : Lavc62.11.100 libwebp
creation_time : 2025-12-26T23:39:29.000000Z
handler_name : Apple Video Media Handler
vendor_id : appl
timecode : 00:00:00:00
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frame= 5 fps=2.4 q=-0.0 size= 256KiB time=00:00:00.08 bitrate=25165.9kbits/s speed=0.0406x elapsed=0:00:02.05
frame= 6 fps=2.3 q=-0.0 size= 256KiB time=00:00:00.10 bitrate=20971.5kbits/s speed=0.0389x elapsed=0:00:02.57
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[out#0/webp @ 0000024e1d3dbdc0] video:5036KiB audio:0KiB subtitle:0KiB other streams:0KiB global headers:0KiB muxing overhead: unknown
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```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Converted `rainypet.mov` to an animated WebP with alpha. The conversion:
- **Input**: ProRes 4444 with alpha (yuva444p12le, 2000x2000, 60 fps)
- **Output**: Animated WebP with alpha (yuva420p)
- **Result**: `rainypet.webp` (5,036 KiB) in the `rainypet` directory
The WebP preserves the alpha channel and loops. The file is ready to use.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
I'm using Shutter Encoder to make it a transparent webm to make things simplest. What does this rainbow artifacting indicate? I keep running into it.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Rainbow artifacting in transparent WebM usually indicates chroma subsampling or color space conversion issues. Checking the source video properties to diagnose:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffprobe -v error -select_streams v:0 -show_entries stream=codec_name,pix_fmt,color_space,color_primaries,color_trc -of default=noprint_wrappers=1 rainypet.mov</summary>
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffprobe -v error -select_streams v:0 -show_entries stream=codec_name,pix_fmt,color_space,color_primaries,color_trc -of default=noprint_wrappers=1 rainypet.mov
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="search" data-tool-name="web_search">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **web_search** • Searched web `WebM VP8 VP9 transparent alpha rainbow artifacting chroma subsampling fix` • **1** results</summary>
| Title | URL | Chunk |
|-------|-----|-------|
| Web Search Results | | Rainbow artifacting in your transparent WebM videos created with Shutter Encoder typically indicates issues related to color space conversion or codec settings during the encoding process. To address this problem, consider the following steps:<br/><br/>1. **Disable GPU Decoding and Filtering**: Some users have reported that disabling GPU decoding and filtering in Shutter Encoder resolves transparency issues. To do this:<br/> - Open Shutter Encoder.<br/> - Go to the "Options" menu.<br/> - Uncheck "Use GPU decoding" and "Use GPU filtering."<br/> - Proceed with your conversion as usual.<br/><br/> This approach has been effective in preserving transparency during WebM exports. ([community.adobe.com](https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/problem-with-export-of-transparent-webm-video/m-p/15222624/highlight/true?utm_source=openai))<br/><br/>2. **Ensure Proper Codec Selection**: When converting videos with transparency, it's crucial to select a codec that supports alpha channels. In Shutter Encoder:<br/> - Choose "VP9" as the codec.<br/> - In the "Advanced Features" section, enable the "Alpha Channel" option.<br/><br/> This configuration helps maintain the transparency of your video. ([support.socialive.us](https://support.socialive.us/support/solutions/articles/67000698528-using-shutter-encoder-to-convert-videos-to-webm-format-to-use-as-overlays?utm_source=openai))<br/><br/>3. **Verify Source File Integrity**: Ensure that your original video file has a proper alpha channel and is free from artifacts. If the source file contains issues, they may persist after conversion.<br/><br/>4. **Update or Reinstall Shutter Encoder**: Software updates can introduce changes that might affect functionality. If you started experiencing issues after an update, consider reinstalling the previous stable version of Shutter Encoder.<br/><br/>By following these steps, you should be able to mitigate the rainbow artifacting in your transparent WebM videos. |
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Trying a different approach to check the video properties:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: ffprobe -v error -select_streams v:0 -show_entries stream=codec_name,pix_fmt,color_space,color_primaries,color_trc -of default=noprint_wrappers=1 "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\rainypet.mov"</summary>
```bash
ffprobe -v error -select_streams v:0 -show_entries stream=codec_name,pix_fmt,color_space,color_primaries,color_trc -of default=noprint_wrappers=1 "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\rainypet.mov"
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Rainbow artifacting in transparent WebM usually comes from chroma subsampling or color space conversion. Your source is ProRes 4444 (4:4:4, full chroma), and WebM/VP9 often encodes to 4:2:0, which can cause these artifacts.
## Solutions for Shutter Encoder:
### 1. **Force 4:4:4 chroma subsampling**
- In Shutter Encoder, use VP9 with alpha
- In advanced/custom options, add: `-pix_fmt yuva444p` or `-pix_fmt yuva420p`
- Prefer `yuva444p` to preserve full chroma
### 2. **Disable GPU acceleration**
- Options → uncheck "Use GPU decoding" and "Use GPU filtering"
- GPU encoding can introduce color space conversion issues
### 3. **Use VP9 with proper alpha settings**
- Codec: VP9
- Enable "Alpha Channel" in Advanced Features
- Set quality/bitrate higher (e.g., 80–100)
### 4. **Alternative: Use ffmpeg directly with proper settings**
If Shutter Encoder continues to have issues, you can use ffmpeg with these settings:
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 30 -b:v 0 -an rainypet.webm
```
Or for better quality (larger file):
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 20 -b:v 0 -an rainypet.webm
```
The key parameters:
- `-pix_fmt yuva420p` - Ensures proper alpha channel encoding
- `-auto-alt-ref 0` - Disables alternate reference frames (can cause alpha issues)
- `-lag-in-frames 0` - Reduces encoding delay that can affect alpha
The rainbow pattern is likely from chroma subsampling (4:4:4 → 4:2:0) or incorrect color space handling. Ensuring proper pixel format and disabling GPU processing usually resolves it.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
artifacting is the result, rainypet.webm
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Checking `rainypet.webm` and re-encoding with settings that preserve alpha and avoid chroma subsampling artifacts:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="generic" data-tool-name="glob_file_search">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **glob_file_search** • Searched codebase "**/rainypet.webm" • **1** result in **1** directory</summary>
Directory: **\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew** (1 file)
| File |
|------|
| `rainypet\rainypet.webm` |
</details>
</tool-use>
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 30 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_fixed.webm</summary>
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 30 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_fixed.webm
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Checking the existing WebM file and preparing a fix command. The rainbow artifacting is likely from chroma subsampling or color space conversion. Creating a corrected version:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: ffmpeg -i "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\rainypet.mov" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 30 -b:v 0 -an "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\rainypet_fixed.webm"</summary>
```bash
ffmpeg -i "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\rainypet.mov" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 30 -b:v 0 -an "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\rainypet_fixed.webm"
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Trying a different approach. The terminal has issues, so here's the command to fix the rainbow artifacting:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: powershell -Command "cd '\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet'; ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 30 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_fixed.webm"</summary>
```bash
powershell -Command "cd '\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet'; ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 30 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_fixed.webm"
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
The terminal is having issues. Run this command to fix the rainbow artifacting:
**To fix the rainbow artifacting in your WebM, run this command:**
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet"
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 30 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_fixed.webm
```
**Or for higher quality (larger file size):**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 20 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_fixed.webm
```
**What these settings do:**
- `-pix_fmt yuva420p` - Ensures proper alpha channel encoding with correct chroma subsampling
- `-auto-alt-ref 0` - Disables alternate reference frames (can cause alpha/color issues)
- `-lag-in-frames 0` - Reduces encoding delay that can affect alpha channel
- `-crf 30` - Quality setting (lower = better quality, 20-30 is good range)
- `-b:v 0` - Uses CRF mode (constant rate factor) instead of bitrate
**The rainbow artifacting is typically caused by:**
1. Incorrect chroma subsampling (4:4:4 → 4:2:0 conversion issues)
2. Color space conversion problems
3. VP9 encoding settings that don't properly handle alpha channels
This command should eliminate the rainbow artifacts while preserving transparency.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (5-69) still busted. it's a problem in the original recode to webm, this re-recode can't get rid of the issue.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
The artifacting was introduced during the initial encode, so re-encoding the WebM won't fix it. We need to encode from the original source with proper color space handling. Checking the source file and trying a better encoding approach:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: ffprobe -v error -select_streams v:0 -show_entries stream=codec_name,pix_fmt,color_space,color_primaries,color_trc -of default=noprint_wrappers=1 "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\rainypet.mov"</summary>
```bash
ffprobe -v error -select_streams v:0 -show_entries stream=codec_name,pix_fmt,color_space,color_primaries,color_trc -of default=noprint_wrappers=1 "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\rainypet.mov"
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
The source is CineForm (CFHD) with `gbrap12le` (12-bit RGBA). Converting RGB to YUV with chroma subsampling is likely causing the artifacting. Encoding from the original source with better color space handling:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_fixed.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 27, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,27 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Encode from original MOV to WebM with proper color space handling
+ REM This avoids rainbow artifacting by using 4:4:4 chroma and proper color conversion
+
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=yuva444p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva444p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 25 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_4444.webm
+
+ REM Alternative: If yuva444p doesn't work, try with explicit color space conversion
+ REM ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ REM -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=auto:out_color_matrix=bt709" ^
+ REM -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ REC -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ REM -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ REM -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ REM -crf 25 ^
+ REM -b:v 0 ^
+ REM -an ^
+ REM rainypet_420p.webm
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Fixing a typo in the batch file:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="read" data-tool-name="read_file">
<details><summary>Tool use: **read_file** • Read file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_fixed.bat</summary>
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="search_replace">
<details><summary>Tool use: **search_replace** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_fixed.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 1, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -18,5 +18,5 @@
REM -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=auto:out_color_matrix=bt709" ^
REM -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
- REC -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ REM -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
REM -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
REM -lag-in-frames 0 ^
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Providing a better solution. The issue is converting from RGB (gbrap12le) to YUV. Here are commands to try:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="search_replace">
<details><summary>Tool use: **search_replace** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_fixed.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 2, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
@echo off
REM Encode from original MOV to WebM with proper color space handling
- REM This avoids rainbow artifacting by using 4:4:4 chroma and proper color conversion
+ REM This avoids rainbow artifacting by using 4:4:4 chroma (no subsampling)
+ echo Trying yuva444p (4:4:4 - no chroma subsampling)...
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
-vf "format=yuva444p" ^
```
**Chunk 2**
Lines added: 13, lines removed: 11
```diff
@@ -14,15 +15,17 @@
rainypet_4444.webm
- REM Alternative: If yuva444p doesn't work, try with explicit color space conversion
- REM ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
- REM -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=auto:out_color_matrix=bt709" ^
- REM -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
- REM -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
- REM -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
- REM -lag-in-frames 0 ^
- REM -crf 25 ^
- REM -b:v 0 ^
- REM -an ^
- REM rainypet_420p.webm
+ if %errorlevel% neq 0 (
+ echo yuva444p failed, trying alternative with proper RGB to YUV conversion...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 20 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_420p.webm
+ )
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
The source is RGB (gbrap12le), and the RGB→YUV conversion is causing the artifacting. Run this command directly:
**Try this command (uses 4:4:4 chroma - no subsampling):**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=yuva444p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva444p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 25 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_4444.webm
```
**If that doesn't work or VP9 doesn't support yuva444p, try this (explicit RGB→YUV conversion):**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 20 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_420p.webm
```
**Or try with explicit color space matrix:**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 20 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_fixed.webm
```
The key differences:
1. **yuva444p** avoids chroma subsampling (4:4:4 instead of 4:2:0)
2. **Explicit format conversion** (`format=gbrap,format=yuva420p`) ensures proper RGB→YUV conversion
3. **Color matrix specification** ensures correct color space handling
Start with the first command (yuva444p). If VP9 doesn't support it, use one of the alternatives. The rainbow artifacting is from improper chroma subsampling during RGB→YUV conversion, so these should fix it.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (70-502) still broken.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
VP9 only supports `yuva420p` (4:2:0), which can cause chroma artifacts. Trying AV1 (libaom-av1), which supports better formats, and a more explicit color space conversion:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_av1.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 28, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,28 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Try AV1 codec which has better alpha support
+ REM AV1 supports yuva420p and yuva444p
+
+ echo Trying AV1 with yuva420p...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libaom-av1 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -crf 30 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -cpu-used 4 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_av1_420.webm
+
+ if %errorlevel% neq 0 (
+ echo AV1 420p failed, trying 444p...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva444p" ^
+ -c:v libaom-av1 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva444p ^
+ -crf 30 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -cpu-used 4 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_av1_444.webm
+ )
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="search" data-tool-name="web_search">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **web_search** • Searched web `ffmpeg RGB to YUV conversion rainbow artifacting gbrap yuva420p color matrix fix` • **1** results</summary>
| Title | URL | Chunk |
|-------|-----|-------|
| Web Search Results | | I'm sorry to hear that the previous solutions didn't resolve the rainbow artifacting issue in your WebM file. This problem often arises from chroma subsampling during the conversion process, especially when handling videos with transparency.<br/><br/>**Alternative Approach: Using FFmpeg for Transparent WebM Encoding**<br/><br/>To ensure better control over the encoding process and potentially eliminate the artifacting, you can use FFmpeg directly. Here's how:<br/><br/>1. **Install FFmpeg**: If you haven't already, download and install FFmpeg from the official website: [FFmpeg Downloads](https://ffmpeg.org/download.html).<br/><br/>2. **Open Command Prompt or Terminal**: Navigate to the directory containing your source video file.<br/><br/>3. **Run the Following Command**:<br/><br/> ```bash<br/> ffmpeg -i input.mov -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -b:v 0 -crf 30 -g 150 -auto-alt-ref 1 -metadata:s:v:0 alpha_mode="1" output.webm<br/> ```<br/><br/> **Explanation of the Command**:<br/><br/> - `-i input.mov`: Specifies your input file. Replace `input.mov` with the actual filename.<br/><br/> - `-c:v libvpx-vp9`: Sets the video codec to VP9, which supports transparency.<br/><br/> - `-pix_fmt yuva420p`: Specifies the pixel format with an alpha channel.<br/><br/> - `-b:v 0 -crf 30`: Sets the quality of the output. Adjust the CRF value (e.g., 20 for higher quality, 30 for lower) as needed.<br/><br/> - `-g 150`: Sets the GOP size, which can affect quality and file size.<br/><br/> - `-auto-alt-ref 1`: Enables the use of alternate reference frames, improving quality.<br/><br/> - `-metadata:s:v:0 alpha_mode="1"`: Ensures the alpha channel is recognized in the output file.<br/><br/> - `output.webm`: Specifies the name of the output file.<br/><br/>**Additional Tips**:<br/><br/>- **Avoid Chroma Subsampling Issues**: Ensure that the pixel format (`-pix_fmt yuva420p`) is correctly set to handle transparency without introducing artifacts.<br/><br/>- **Disable GPU Processing**: If you're using software that utilizes GPU acceleration, consider disabling it, as GPU processing can sometimes introduce artifacts in videos with transparency.<br/><br/>By using FFmpeg with the above settings, you should achieve a transparent WebM file without the rainbow artifacting. If the issue persists, please provide more details about your source file and the exact steps you're following, so I can offer more targeted assistance. |
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Trying a more explicit color space conversion using the `zscale` filter for better RGB→YUV conversion:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_fixed_colorspace.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 42, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,42 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Fix rainbow artifacting with explicit color space conversion using zscale
+ REM The issue is RGB (gbrap12le) to YUV conversion - need proper color matrix
+
+ echo Method 1: Using zscale for proper RGB to YUV conversion...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "zscale=matrixin=rgb:matrix=bt709,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 20 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_zscale.webm
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 2: Two-step conversion with explicit color space...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 20 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_2step.webm
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 3: Using colorspace filter...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,colorspace=bt709:iall=bt709:fast=1,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 20 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_colorspace.webm
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
The rainbow artifacting is likely from incorrect RGB→YUV color range conversion. Your source is 12-bit RGB (gbrap12le), likely full range. Try these commands:
**Method 1: Using zscale filter (best for color conversion):**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "zscale=matrixin=rgb:matrix=bt709:rangein=full:range=full,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 20 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_zscale.webm
```
**Method 2: Using colorspace filter with explicit range:**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,colorspace=bt709:iall=bt709:fast=1:range=pc,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 20 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_colorspace.webm
```
**Method 3: Two-step with explicit range conversion:**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 20 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_range.webm
```
The key is handling the color range (full vs limited). RGB sources are often full range, and the conversion must preserve that. Start with Method 1 (zscale) as it typically handles this best.
If these still show artifacts, the issue may be in Shutter Encoder’s settings. Check:
- Color range settings (full vs limited)
- Color space/color matrix settings
- Disable any automatic color space conversion
Try Method 1 first and let me know if the artifacts persist.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (503-552)
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Fixing the zscale syntax. The matrix parameter format was incorrect. Providing corrected commands:
---
The string to replace was not found in the file.
---
---
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="read" data-tool-name="read_file">
<details><summary>Tool use: **read_file** • Read file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_fixed_colorspace.bat</summary>
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="search_replace">
<details><summary>Tool use: **search_replace** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_fixed_colorspace.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 2, lines removed: 2
```diff
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
REM The issue is RGB (gbrap12le) to YUV conversion - need proper color matrix
- echo Method 1: Using zscale for proper RGB to YUV conversion...
+ echo Method 1: Using colorspace filter with explicit range (PC/full range)...
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
- -vf "zscale=matrixin=rgb:matrix=bt709,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,colorspace=bt709:iall=bt709:fast=1:range=pc,format=yuva420p" ^
-c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
-pix_fmt yuva420p ^
```
**Chunk 2**
Lines added: 1, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -13,5 +13,5 @@
-b:v 0 ^
-an ^
- rainypet_zscale.webm
+ rainypet_colorspace.webm
echo.
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="search_replace">
<details><summary>Tool use: **search_replace** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_fixed_colorspace.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 15, lines removed: 2
```diff
@@ -29,7 +29,20 @@
echo.
- echo Method 3: Using colorspace filter...
+ echo Method 3: Using zscale with correct syntax (RGB-&gt;YUV via format first)...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva444p,zscale=matrix=1:range=full,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 20 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_zscale.webm
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 4: Simple format chain (RGB-&gt;444-&gt;420)...
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
- -vf "format=gbrap,colorspace=bt709:iall=bt709:fast=1,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva444p,format=yuva420p" ^
-c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
-pix_fmt yuva420p ^
```
**Chunk 2**
Lines added: 1, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -39,5 +52,5 @@
-b:v 0 ^
-an ^
- rainypet_colorspace.webm
+ rainypet_simple.webm
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Fixed the zscale syntax. Try these corrected commands:
**Method 1: Colorspace filter with explicit full range (recommended):**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,colorspace=bt709:iall=bt709:fast=1:range=pc,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 20 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_colorspace.webm
```
**Method 2: Scale filter with explicit color matrix and range:**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 20 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_scale.webm
```
**Method 3: Simple format chain (RGB→444→420):**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva444p,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 20 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_simple.webm
```
The zscale error was due to invalid syntax. The colorspace filter (Method 1) is the most reliable for RGB→YUV conversion with proper range handling. The `range=pc` parameter ensures full range RGB is handled correctly.
Try Method 1 first; it should eliminate the rainbow artifacting by properly converting the RGB color space to YUV.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (553-750) they're all broken
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
The colorspace filter warning "Input range not set, assuming tv/mpeg" indicates it isn't detecting the input range. Trying explicit input range settings and an alternative approach:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_final_fix.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 55, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,55 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Final attempt - explicit input range specification and AV1 codec option
+
+ echo Method 1: Colorspace with explicit input range (pc/full)...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,colorspace=bt709:iall=bt709:fast=1:rangein=pc:range=pc,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 18 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_explicit_range.webm
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 2: Using swscale directly with explicit parameters...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,scale=flags=accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int:in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 18 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_swscale.webm
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 3: Try AV1 codec (supports better formats, may avoid artifacts)...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,colorspace=bt709:iall=bt709:fast=1:rangein=pc:range=pc,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libaom-av1 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -crf 30 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -cpu-used 4 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_av1.webm
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 4: Higher quality VP9 with better settings...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,colorspace=bt709:iall=bt709:fast=1:rangein=pc:range=pc,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 15 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -row-mt 1 ^
+ -tiles 2x2 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_hq.webm
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="search" data-tool-name="web_search">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **web_search** • Searched web `VP9 WebM rainbow artifacting chroma subsampling RGB source fix yuva420p` • **1** results</summary>
| Title | URL | Chunk |
|-------|-----|-------|
| Web Search Results | | I'm sorry to hear that the previous solutions didn't resolve the rainbow artifacting issue in your transparent WebM exports using Shutter Encoder. This artifacting is often due to chroma subsampling and color space conversion problems during the encoding process.<br/><br/>**Potential Causes:**<br/><br/>1. **Chroma Subsampling:** VP9, the codec used for WebM, typically employs 4:2:0 chroma subsampling, which can lead to color artifacts, especially in areas with sharp color transitions.<br/><br/>2. **Color Space Conversion:** Improper conversion from RGB to YUV color spaces can introduce artifacts if not handled correctly.<br/><br/>**Recommended Solutions:**<br/><br/>1. **Disable GPU Processing in Shutter Encoder:**<br/><br/> Some users have reported that disabling GPU decoding and filtering in Shutter Encoder helps preserve transparency and reduces artifacts. ([community.adobe.com](https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/problem-with-export-of-transparent-webm-video/m-p/15222321/highlight/true?utm_source=openai))<br/><br/> - **Steps:**<br/> - Open Shutter Encoder.<br/> - Go to the "Preferences" or "Settings" menu.<br/> - Locate options related to GPU processing, decoding, or filtering.<br/> - Disable these options.<br/> - Restart Shutter Encoder and attempt the conversion again.<br/><br/>2. **Use Alternative Encoding Tools:**<br/><br/> If the issue persists, consider using other encoding tools that offer more control over color space and chroma subsampling settings. For instance, FFmpeg provides detailed options for handling color spaces and subsampling.<br/><br/> - **FFmpeg Command Example:**<br/><br/> ```bash<br/> ffmpeg -i input.mov -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -b:v 0 -crf 30 -g 150 output.webm<br/> ```<br/><br/> - `-pix_fmt yuva420p` ensures the use of a pixel format that supports transparency.<br/> - Adjust `-crf` (constant rate factor) for quality; lower values yield higher quality.<br/> - `-g` sets the GOP (Group of Pictures) size; adjust as needed.<br/><br/>**Additional Considerations:**<br/><br/>- **Software Updates:** Ensure that you're using the latest version of Shutter Encoder, as updates may address known issues.<br/><br/>- **Community Support:** Engage with the Shutter Encoder community or forums for insights and potential solutions from other users who might have faced similar issues.<br/><br/>If these steps don't resolve the artifacting, providing more details about your source file's specifications and the exact settings used during encoding can help in diagnosing the problem more accurately. |
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
The colorspace filter isn't detecting the input range. Try these with explicit input range settings:
**Method 1: Explicit input range (pc/full range):**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,colorspace=bt709:iall=bt709:fast=1:rangein=pc:range=pc,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 18 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_explicit_range.webm
```
**Method 2: Using swscale with accurate rounding:**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,scale=flags=accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int:in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 18 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_swscale.webm
```
**Method 3: Try AV1 codec (may handle RGB→YUV better):**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,colorspace=bt709:iall=bt709:fast=1:rangein=pc:range=pc,format=yuva420p" -c:v libaom-av1 -pix_fmt yuva420p -crf 30 -b:v 0 -cpu-used 4 -an rainypet_av1.webm
```
If these still show artifacts, VP9's 4:2:0 chroma subsampling may be the limitation. Options:
1. Use a different format (e.g., QuickTime with ProRes 4444 or PNG codec)
2. Accept some artifacts with VP9
3. Try a higher bitrate/quality setting
Try Method 1 first (explicit `rangein=pc`). If artifacts persist, VP9's 4:2:0 may be the cause.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (751-798)
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
The colorspace filter doesn't support `rangein`. Trying a different approach with correct syntax:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\encode_webm_corrected.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 56, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,56 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Corrected commands - colorspace filter doesn't support rangein
+ REM Need to use scale filter or format chain for range conversion
+
+ echo Method 1: Using scale filter for RGB to YUV with explicit range...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full:flags=accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 18 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_scale_range.webm
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 2: Convert RGB to YUV444 first, then subsample (may preserve quality better)...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full:flags=accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int,format=yuva444p,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 18 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_444_420.webm
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 3: Try AV1 which may handle RGB sources better...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full:flags=accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libaom-av1 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -crf 30 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -cpu-used 4 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_av1.webm
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 4: Very high quality VP9 (may reduce artifacts)...
+ ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full:flags=accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libvpx-vp9 ^
+ -pix_fmt yuva420p ^
+ -auto-alt-ref 0 ^
+ -lag-in-frames 0 ^
+ -crf 10 ^
+ -b:v 0 ^
+ -row-mt 1 ^
+ -tiles 2x2 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_vhq.webm
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
The colorspace filter doesn't support `rangein`. Use these corrected commands:
**Method 1: Scale filter with explicit range conversion (recommended):**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full:flags=accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 18 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_scale_range.webm
```
**Method 2: RGB→YUV444→YUV420 (may preserve quality better):**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full:flags=accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int,format=yuva444p,format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 18 -b:v 0 -an rainypet_444_420.webm
```
**Method 3: Try AV1 codec:**
```bash
ffmpeg -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,scale=in_color_matrix=bt709:out_color_matrix=bt709:in_range=full:out_range=full:flags=accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int,format=yuva420p" -c:v libaom-av1 -pix_fmt yuva420p -crf 30 -b:v 0 -cpu-used 4 -an rainypet_av1.webm
```
The key changes:
- Using `scale` filter with explicit `in_range=full:out_range=full` parameters
- Adding `flags=accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int` for better chroma handling
- Method 2 converts to 444 first, then subsamples to 420 (may reduce artifacts)
Try Method 1 first. If artifacts persist, it may be a limitation of VP9's 4:2:0 chroma subsampling with RGB sources. In that case, consider AV1 (Method 3) or a different format.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
oh, they've been fine all along, it's just VLC can't read the codec properly.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
The rainbow artifacting was from VLC’s VP9 alpha decoding, not the encodes. This is a known VLC issue with VP9 alpha in WebM.
To verify the files are correct, try:
- Chrome/Edge (good VP9 alpha support)
- Firefox (good VP9 alpha support)
- MPV (better VP9 alpha support than VLC)
- PotPlayer (Windows)
Your WebM files are likely fine. The encodes with proper color space conversion should work in browsers and other players that handle VP9 alpha correctly.
If you need to test in VLC, you could try updating VLC, but browsers are the most reliable for WebM with alpha.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
what are the properties of rainypet.webm?
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Checking properties of `rainypet.webm`:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: ffprobe -v error -select_streams v:0 -show_entries stream=codec_name,codec_long_name,pix_fmt,width,height,r_frame_rate,bit_rate,color_space,color_primaries,color_trc,color_range -show_entries format=format_name,bit_rate,duration,size -of default=noprint_wrappers=1 "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\rainypet.webm"</summary>
```bash
ffprobe -v error -select_streams v:0 -show_entries stream=codec_name,codec_long_name,pix_fmt,width,height,r_frame_rate,bit_rate,color_space,color_primaries,color_trc,color_range -show_entries format=format_name,bit_rate,duration,size -of default=noprint_wrappers=1 "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\rainypet.webm"
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Trying a different approach:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="generic" data-tool-name="glob_file_search">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **glob_file_search** • Searched codebase "**/rainypet.webm" • **1** result in **1** directory</summary>
Directory: **\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew** (1 file)
| File |
|------|
| `rainypet\rainypet.webm` |
</details>
</tool-use>
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffprobe -v error -show_format -show_streams rainypet.webm</summary>
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffprobe -v error -show_format -show_streams rainypet.webm
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
The terminal is having issues. Run this command to get the properties:
```bash
ffprobe -v error -select_streams v:0 -show_entries stream=codec_name,pix_fmt,width,height,r_frame_rate,bit_rate,color_space,color_primaries,color_range -show_entries format=format_name,duration,size -of default=noprint_wrappers=1 rainypet.webm
```
Or for a more readable output:
```bash
ffprobe -v error -show_format -show_streams rainypet.webm
```
From the earlier encoding output, `rainypet.webm` should have:
- **Codec**: VP9 (libvpx-vp9)
- **Pixel Format**: yuva420p (YUV 4:2:0 with alpha channel)
- **Resolution**: 2000x2000
- **Frame Rate**: 60 fps
- **Container**: WebM
- **Duration**: ~0.87 seconds (52 frames at 60fps)
- **File Size**: ~766 KiB (from the earlier encoding)
The file was encoded with VP9 and supports transparency (alpha channel). If you want the exact current properties, run the ffprobe command above.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (898-1053)
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
From the properties:
**Video Properties:**
- **Codec**: VP9 (Google VP9, Profile 0)
- **Resolution**: 2000x2000
- **Frame Rate**: 60 fps
- **Pixel Format**: `yuv420p` (though `TAG:alpha_mode=1` indicates alpha is present)
- **Color Range**: `tv` (limited range)
- **Color Space/Primaries**: `unknown` (may affect VLC playback)
- **Duration**: 0.874 seconds (~52 frames)
- **File Size**: 1,476,289 bytes (~1.4 MB)
- **Bitrate**: ~13.5 Mbps
**Audio Properties:**
- **Codec**: Opus
- **Sample Rate**: 48 kHz
- **Channels**: 2 (stereo)
**Observations:**
1. Alpha is present (`TAG:alpha_mode=1`), but ffprobe shows `yuv420p` instead of `yuva420p`; the alpha is likely embedded.
2. Color space is `unknown`, which can cause VLC decoding issues.
3. Color range is `tv` (limited), while the source was full range RGB.
The `unknown` color space may be why VLC shows artifacts. The file should work in browsers that handle VP9 alpha. If you want to improve VLC compatibility, you could re-encode with explicit color space metadata, but since browsers work, it may not be necessary.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
output to animated webp?
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Converting `rainypet.webm` to an animated WebP with alpha:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -i rainypet.webm -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp</summary>
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -i rainypet.webm -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
```
ffmpeg version 8.0-essentials_build-www.gyan.dev Copyright (c) 2000-2025 the FFmpeg developers
built with gcc 15.2.0 (Rev8, Built by MSYS2 project)
configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-static --disable-w32threads --disable-autodetect --enable-fontconfig --enable-iconv --enable-gnutls --enable-libxml2 --enable-gmp --enable-bzlib --enable-lzma --enable-zlib --enable-libsrt --enable-libssh --enable-libzmq --enable-avisynth --enable-sdl2 --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxvid --enable-libaom --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libvpx --enable-mediafoundation --enable-libass --enable-libfreetype --enable-libfribidi --enable-libharfbuzz --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvmaf --enable-libzimg --enable-amf --enable-cuda-llvm --enable-cuvid --enable-dxva2 --enable-d3d11va --enable-d3d12va --enable-ffnvcodec --enable-libvpl --enable-nvdec --enable-nvenc --enable-vaapi --enable-openal --enable-libgme --enable-libopenmpt --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libtheora --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libgsm --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopus --enable-libspeex --enable-libvorbis --enable-librubberband
libavutil 60. 8.100 / 60. 8.100
libavcodec 62. 11.100 / 62. 11.100
libavformat 62. 3.100 / 62. 3.100
libavdevice 62. 1.100 / 62. 1.100
libavfilter 11. 4.100 / 11. 4.100
libswscale 9. 1.100 / 9. 1.100
libswresample 6. 1.100 / 6. 1.100
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'rainypet.webm':
Metadata:
TIMECODE : 00:00:00:00
creation_time : 2025-12-26T23:46:07.401404Z
MAJOR_BRAND : qt
MINOR_VERSION : 537199360
COMPATIBLE_BRANDS: qt
ENCODER : Lavf62.6.100
Duration: 00:00:00.87, start: -0.007000, bitrate: 13512 kb/s
Stream #0:0(eng): Video: vp9 (Profile 0), yuv420p(tv, progressive), 2000x2000, SAR 1:1 DAR 1:1, 60 fps, 60 tbr, 1k tbn (default)
Metadata:
alpha_mode : 1
ENCODER : Lavc62.16.100 libvpx-vp9
HANDLER_NAME : Apple Video Media Handler
VENDOR_ID : appl
TIMECODE : 00:00:00:00
DURATION : 00:00:00.867000000
Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: opus, 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, start -0.007000 (default)
Metadata:
ENCODER : Lavc62.16.100 libopus
HANDLER_NAME : Apple Sound Media Handler
VENDOR_ID :
TIMECODE : 00:00:00:00
DURATION : 00:00:00.874000000
File 'rainypet.webp' already exists. Overwrite? [y/N] Not overwriting - exiting
Error opening output file rainypet.webp.
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Overwriting the existing file:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp</summary>
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Run this command to convert the WebM to animated WebP:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
**Parameters:**
- `-y` - Overwrite existing file
- `-c:v libwebp` - Use WebP encoder
- `-lossless 0` - Lossy compression (use `-lossless 1` for lossless)
- `-compression_level 6` - Compression level (0-6, higher = slower but better compression)
- `-q:v 80` - Quality (0-100, higher = better quality)
- `-loop 0` - Loop infinitely
- `-an` - Remove audio
**For higher quality (larger file):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 90 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
**For lossless (largest file, best quality):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -c:v libwebp -lossless 1 -compression_level 6 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
The animated WebP will preserve the alpha channel from the WebM.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (991-1053) the output has some odd behavior.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
The conversion completed, but the alpha channel may not be preserved. Converting from the original MOV to ensure alpha is handled correctly:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet_from_mov.webp</summary>
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet_from_mov.webp
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
The WebM→WebP conversion may not preserve alpha. Convert directly from the original MOV to preserve alpha:
**Convert from original MOV (recommended):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
**Or if you need to convert from WebM, extract alpha explicitly:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -vf "format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
**For lossless quality (larger file):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -c:v libwebp -lossless 1 -compression_level 6 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet_lossless.webp
```
The issue is likely that the WebM→WebP path isn't extracting the alpha channel. Converting from the original MOV (which has proper alpha) should fix it. The `format=yuva420p` filter in the second command forces alpha extraction from the WebM.
Try the first command (from MOV) first; it should produce a proper animated WebP with alpha.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
if ffmpeg can read alpha from a webm, it can output alpha to an animated webp, surely?
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
If ffmpeg can read alpha from WebM, it should output it to WebP. The output showed `yuv420p` instead of `yuva420p`, so alpha may be getting dropped. Try explicitly preserving alpha:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\webm_to_webp.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 14, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,14 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Convert WebM to animated WebP with explicit alpha preservation
+
+ echo Method 1: Explicit alpha format conversion...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -vf "format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet_alpha.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 2: Direct conversion (should preserve alpha automatically)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -c:v libwebp -pix_fmt yuva420p -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet_direct.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 3: From original MOV (guaranteed alpha)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet_from_mov.webp
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Try these commands to preserve alpha:
**Method 1: Explicit alpha format filter:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -vf "format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 2: Explicit pixel format parameter:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -c:v libwebp -pix_fmt yuva420p -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 3: Direct (should work if alpha is detected):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
The first command uses a filter to force `yuva420p` (with alpha) before encoding. The second explicitly sets the pixel format. Since ffmpeg reads the alpha from WebM (`alpha_mode=1`), one of these should preserve it in the WebP output.
Try Method 1 first; the `format=yuva420p` filter ensures alpha is in the pipeline before encoding.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (802-1053) they're all broken.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Noting that the last command (line 970) outputs `yuv420p` (no alpha), while the others show `yuva420p` with `alpha_mode=1`. VP9 alpha extraction may be unreliable. Converting directly from the original MOV to ensure alpha is preserved:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp</summary>
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
VP9 alpha extraction may be unreliable. Convert directly from the original MOV file, which has proper alpha:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
The MOV has RGB alpha (`gbrap12le`), which should convert to WebP alpha more reliably than extracting from VP9.
If you need to use the WebM, try extracting alpha explicitly first:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -vf "extractplanes=y+u+v+a" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
Or use a two-step process:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -vf "format=yuva420p" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -f webm -an temp_alpha.webm
ffmpeg -y -i temp_alpha.webm -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
Start with the first command (from MOV) for the most reliable result.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
this is from the MOV. @pwsh (991-1053) the output looks fine as a thumbnail but when opened in chrome 1. it's extremely slow 2. the background flashes different shades of gray 3. the frames freak out and leave after images
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
The output shows `bgra` (RGB) instead of YUV, and there's a warning about RGB-to-YUV conversion. The frame timing and disposal may also be off. Fixing the encoding:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\webp_fixed.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 57, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,57 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Fix animated WebP encoding issues:
+ REM 1. Convert RGB to YUV properly
+ REM 2. Set proper frame timing
+ REM 3. Use better encoding settings
+
+ echo Method 1: Convert RGB to YUV first, then encode...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 80 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_yuv.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 2: With explicit frame rate and timing...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,fps=60" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 80 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -r 60 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_fps.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 3: Lossless (may fix frame issues)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 1 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_lossless.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 4: Higher quality, slower preset...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 4 ^
+ -q:v 90 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset picture ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_hq.webp
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
The WebP is encoded as RGB (`bgra`) instead of YUV, which causes slow playback and artifacts. Try these:
**Method 1: Convert RGB to YUV first (recommended):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 2: With explicit frame rate:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,fps=60" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -r 60 -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 3: Lossless (may fix frame disposal issues):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 1 -compression_level 6 -loop 0 -preset default -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 4: Higher quality with slower preset:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 4 -q:v 90 -loop 0 -preset picture -an rainypet.webp
```
The key fix is `format=gbrap,format=yuva420p` to convert RGB to YUV before encoding. This should:
- Speed up playback (YUV is more efficient)
- Fix the gray flashing (proper color space conversion)
- Fix frame artifacts (proper frame encoding)
Try Method 1 first; it should resolve the issues.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (992-1053) method 1 same result.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Trying lossless encoding and adjusting frame disposal/timing, which may be causing the frame artifacts:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\webp_animation_fix.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 52, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,52 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Fix animated WebP frame issues - try lossless and different settings
+
+ echo Method 1: Lossless (best for animations, no frame artifacts)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 1 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_lossless.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 2: Lossless with higher compression...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 1 ^
+ -compression_level 4 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset picture ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_lossless_hq.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 3: Lossy but with explicit frame timing...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,setpts=PTS-STARTPTS" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 90 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -r 60 ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_timing.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 4: Try from WebM instead (already YUV, might work better)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm ^
+ -vf "format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 1 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_from_webm.webp
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="search" data-tool-name="web_search">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **web_search** • Searched web `animated WebP Chrome slow playback flashing gray frames afterimages fix ffmpeg` • **1** results</summary>
| Title | URL | Chunk |
|-------|-----|-------|
| Web Search Results | | I understand you're encountering issues when converting your MOV file with an alpha channel to an animated WebP using FFmpeg, resulting in unexpected artifacts such as afterimages and gray frames. This problem often arises due to the complexities involved in handling transparency and color spaces during the conversion process.<br/><br/>**Potential Causes:**<br/><br/>1. **Color Space Conversion Issues:** MOV files with alpha channels are typically in RGB color space, while WebP uses YUV. Improper conversion between these color spaces can lead to artifacts.<br/><br/>2. **Frame Disposal and Timing Settings:** Animated WebP files require precise frame disposal and timing settings. Incorrect configurations can cause frames to overlap or display incorrectly.<br/><br/>**Recommended Solution:**<br/><br/>To address these issues, consider the following approach:<br/><br/>1. **Use the `libwebp_anim` Encoder:**<br/><br/> The `libwebp_anim` encoder in FFmpeg is specifically designed for creating animated WebP files and handles alpha channels more effectively.<br/><br/> **Command:**<br/><br/> ```bash<br/> ffmpeg -i input.mov -c:v libwebp_anim -lossless 1 -loop 0 -preset default -an -vsync 0 output.webp<br/> ```<br/><br/> **Explanation:**<br/><br/> - `-c:v libwebp_anim`: Specifies the use of the `libwebp_anim` encoder.<br/><br/> - `-lossless 1`: Enables lossless encoding, preserving image quality.<br/><br/> - `-loop 0`: Sets the animation to loop indefinitely.<br/><br/> - `-preset default`: Uses the default encoding preset for a balance between speed and quality.<br/><br/> - `-an`: Disables audio processing.<br/><br/> - `-vsync 0`: Disables frame dropping and duplication, maintaining the original frame rate.<br/><br/> This method has been effective for users facing similar issues. ([stackoverflow.com](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54097180/converting-a-mov-to-webp?utm_source=openai))<br/><br/>**Additional Considerations:**<br/><br/>- **FFmpeg Version:** Ensure you're using an up-to-date version of FFmpeg, as support for animated WebP and related features has improved over time.<br/><br/>- **Alternative Tools:** If issues persist, consider using dedicated tools like [Video2WebP](https://mattj.io/video2webp/), which provides a user-friendly interface for converting videos to animated WebP format.<br/><br/>By following this approach, you should be able to convert your MOV file with an alpha channel to an animated WebP without encountering the artifacts you've described. |
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Try these fixes for animated WebP frame issues:
**Method 1: Lossless encoding (recommended for animations):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 1 -compression_level 6 -loop 0 -preset default -vsync 0 -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 2: Lossless with higher compression:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 1 -compression_level 4 -loop 0 -preset picture -vsync 0 -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 3: From WebM (already YUV, might work better):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.webm -vf "format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 1 -compression_level 6 -loop 0 -preset default -vsync 0 -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 4: Lossy with explicit frame timing:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,setpts=PTS-STARTPTS" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 90 -loop 0 -preset default -vsync 0 -r 60 -an rainypet.webp
```
Changes:
- `-lossless 1` — lossless encoding to avoid frame artifacts
- `-vsync 0` — prevents frame dropping/duplication
- `setpts=PTS-STARTPTS` — normalizes frame timing
Try Method 1 first (lossless with `-vsync 0`). Lossless encoding often resolves frame disposal issues in animated WebP.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (990-1053) same result. I think the bitrate is massively too high
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
The bitrate is too high (~44 Mbps). Lossless WebP can be large. Trying lossy encoding with better compression settings:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\webp_reasonable_size.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 59, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,59 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Reduce bitrate with better compression settings
+
+ echo Method 1: Lossy with lower quality (smaller file)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 70 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_q70.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 2: Lower quality, higher compression...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 60 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_q60.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 3: Maximum compression...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 50 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_q50.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 4: Reduce frame rate to 30fps (half the frames)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,fps=30" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 80 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -r 30 ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_30fps.webp
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Try these lossy settings to reduce bitrate:
**Method 1: Lower quality (q:v 70):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 70 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 2: Even lower quality (q:v 60):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 60 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 3: Reduce to 30fps (half the frames = much smaller):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,fps=30" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 80 -loop 0 -preset default -r 30 -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 4: Balanced (q:v 75):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
Changes:
- `-lossless 0` — lossy encoding (much smaller files)
- `-q:v 60-75` — quality (lower = smaller file, 50-80 is typical)
- `-fps_mode passthrough` — modern replacement for `-vsync 0`
- Method 3 reduces frame rate to 30fps to cut file size
Start with Method 1 (q:v 70). If it’s still too large, try Method 2 (q:v 60) or Method 3 (30fps). This should reduce the bitrate and improve playback performance.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (928-1053) same result.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Bitrate is still high (~43 Mbps). At 2000x2000 and 60fps, each frame is large. Reducing resolution and frame rate:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\webp_reduce_size.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 61, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,61 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Reduce resolution and/or frame rate to fix playback issues
+
+ echo Method 1: Reduce to 30fps (half the frames)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,fps=30" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 75 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -r 30 ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_30fps.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 2: Reduce resolution to 1000x1000 (quarter the pixels)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=1000:1000" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 75 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_1000.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 3: Both - 30fps and 1000x1000...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=1000:1000,fps=30" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 75 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -r 30 ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_1000_30fps.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 4: Lower quality, 30fps...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,fps=30" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 60 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -r 30 ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_30fps_q60.webp
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
The bitrate is too high for smooth playback. At 2000x2000 and 60fps, each frame is large. Try reducing resolution and/or frame rate:
**Method 1: Reduce to 30fps (half the frames):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,fps=30" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -r 30 -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 2: Reduce resolution to 1000x1000 (quarter the pixels):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=1000:1000" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 3: Both - 30fps and 1000x1000 (recommended):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=1000:1000,fps=30" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -r 30 -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 4: Even smaller - 800x800 at 30fps:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=800:800,fps=30" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -r 30 -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
At 2000x2000 and 60fps, the bitrate is too high for smooth playback. Method 3 (1000x1000 at 30fps) should reduce the bitrate significantly and improve playback. Try Method 3 first.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (1006-1053)
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Removing the conflicting `-r` parameter when using `-fps_mode passthrough`:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="search_replace">
<details><summary>Tool use: **search_replace** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\webp_reduce_size.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: undefined, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -11,5 +11,4 @@
-loop 0 ^
-preset default ^
- -r 30 ^
-fps_mode passthrough ^
-an ^
```
**Chunk 2**
Lines added: undefined, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -40,5 +39,4 @@
-loop 0 ^
-preset default ^
- -r 30 ^
-fps_mode passthrough ^
-an ^
```
**Chunk 3**
Lines added: undefined, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -55,5 +53,4 @@
-loop 0 ^
-preset default ^
- -r 30 ^
-fps_mode passthrough ^
-an ^
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Removed the conflicting `-r` parameter. Use these corrected commands:
**Method 1: Reduce to 30fps:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,fps=30" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 2: Reduce resolution to 1000x1000:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=1000:1000" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 3: Both - 30fps and 1000x1000 (recommended):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=1000:1000,fps=30" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
The `fps=30` filter handles the frame rate conversion, so `-r` isn't needed. Try Method 3 first; it should reduce the bitrate and improve playback.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
let's set it to 250x250
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Encoding at 250x250:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp</summary>
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Run this command to encode at 250x250:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
**Or with 30fps for even smaller file:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,fps=30" -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
At 250x250, the bitrate should be much lower and playback should be smooth. The second command also reduces to 30fps for a smaller file.
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_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
the playback issue is fixed. the frames are still leaving afterimages; it's just slapping one frame directly on top of the next, without regard for how the transparency will allow the previous frame to be seen.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Frames are compositing without proper disposal. Animated WebP may not handle transparent frame disposal well. Trying lossless encoding and checking for disposal-related encoder options:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\webp_frame_disposal.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 50, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,50 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Try to fix frame disposal issues in animated WebP
+
+ echo Method 1: Lossless (sometimes handles frame disposal better)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 1 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_lossless.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 2: Try with picture preset (might handle frames differently)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 75 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset picture ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_picture.webp
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 3: Convert to GIF first, then to WebP (GIF has better disposal)...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" ^
+ -c:v gif ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_temp.gif
+
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet_temp.gif ^
+ -c:v libwebp ^
+ -lossless 0 ^
+ -compression_level 6 ^
+ -q:v 75 ^
+ -loop 0 ^
+ -preset default ^
+ -fps_mode passthrough ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_from_gif.webp
+
+ del rainypet_temp.gif
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="search" data-tool-name="web_search">
<details>
<summary>Tool use: **web_search** • Searched web `animated WebP frame disposal transparency afterimages ffmpeg libwebp fix` • **1** results</summary>
| Title | URL | Chunk |
|-------|-----|-------|
| Web Search Results | | The issue you're encountering, where previous frames are visible through transparent areas in your animated WebP, is likely due to the frame blending and disposal settings during encoding. In the WebP format, each frame can specify how it blends with the previous frame and how it disposes of itself before the next frame is rendered. If these settings aren't configured correctly, it can result in artifacts where remnants of previous frames are visible.<br/><br/>To address this, you can adjust the blending and disposal methods during the encoding process. FFmpeg's native WebP muxer has had issues with frame blending settings in the past, leading to such artifacts. A patch was proposed to set the blending method to "do not blend" and the disposal method to "do not dispose" to prevent these issues. ([ffmpeg.org](https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2015-June/174631.html?utm_source=openai))<br/><br/>To implement this in your FFmpeg command, you can use the `-disposition` option to set the frame disposal method and the `-blend` option to set the blending method. Here's how you can modify your command:<br/><br/>```bash<br/>ffmpeg -i input.mov -vf "format=yuva420p" -c:v libwebp -disposition:v:0 0 -blend 0 -loop 0 -an output.webp<br/>```<br/><br/>In this command:<br/><br/>- `-disposition:v:0 0` sets the disposal method to "do not dispose."<br/>- `-blend 0` sets the blending method to "do not blend."<br/>- `-loop 0` ensures the animation loops indefinitely.<br/><br/>By explicitly setting these parameters, you can control how each frame interacts with the previous one, preventing the issue of previous frames showing through transparent areas.<br/><br/>If the problem persists, consider updating your FFmpeg to the latest version, as improvements and bug fixes related to WebP encoding have been made over time. Additionally, ensure that your source video has a proper alpha channel and that it's being preserved throughout the encoding process. |
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Trying explicit frame disposal settings. WebP animations may not handle transparent frame disposal well. Try these:
**Method 1: Lossless (may handle disposal better):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" -c:v libwebp -lossless 1 -compression_level 6 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
```
**Method 2: Try converting via GIF first (GIF has better frame disposal):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" -c:v gif -an rainypet_temp.gif
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet_temp.gif -c:v libwebp -lossless 0 -compression_level 6 -q:v 75 -loop 0 -preset default -fps_mode passthrough -an rainypet.webp
del rainypet_temp.gif
```
**Method 3: Try using APNG instead (better transparency support):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" -plays 0 -f apng rainypet.png
```
**Method 4: Use WebM instead (better for transparent animations):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuva420p -auto-alt-ref 0 -lag-in-frames 0 -crf 30 -b:v 0 -an rainypet.webm
```
Animated WebP has limited frame disposal support for transparency. Method 2 (via GIF) may work better, or consider WebM (Method 4) or APNG (Method 3) for transparent animations. Try Method 1 first; if it still shows afterimages, try Method 2 or 4.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
just go mov to gif.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
Converting MOV to GIF with transparency:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="shell" data-tool-name="run_terminal_cmd">
<details><summary>Tool use: **run_terminal_cmd** • Run command: cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" -c:v gif -an rainypet.gif</summary>
```bash
cd "\\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet" && ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" -c:v gif -an rainypet.gif
```
```
spawn C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe ENOENT
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
Run this command to convert MOV to GIF:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250" -c:v gif -an rainypet.gif
```
**Or if you want to keep the original resolution:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p" -c:v gif -an rainypet.gif
```
**Or with 30fps:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,fps=30" -c:v gif -an rainypet.gif
```
GIF handles frame disposal for transparency better than animated WebP, so it should fix the afterimage issue.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (992-1053) it's not transparent, and similar artifacting is following the gif output.
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
GIF output shows `bgr8` (no alpha). GIF requires a palette with transparency. Using a palette filter to preserve transparency:
---
<tool-use data-tool-type="write" data-tool-name="write">
<details><summary>Tool use: **write** • Edit file: \\hydra\Hydra\Creative\artsy\shoppers\2020\2020-08-13 rainynew\rainypet\gif_transparent.bat</summary>
**Chunk 1**
Lines added: 24, lines removed: 1
```diff
@@ -1,1 +1,24 @@
-
+ @echo off
+ REM Create GIF with proper transparency using palette filter
+
+ echo Method 1: Generate palette with transparency, then encode...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,palettegen=reserve_transparent=1" ^
+ -frames:v 1 ^
+ rainypet_palette.png
+
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -i rainypet_palette.png ^
+ -lavfi "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250[x];[x][1:v]paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128" ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet.gif
+
+ del rainypet_palette.png
+
+ echo.
+ echo Method 2: Single command with complex filter...
+ ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov ^
+ -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,split[s0][s1];[s0]palettegen=reserve_transparent=1[p];[s1][p]paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128" ^
+ -an ^
+ rainypet_single.gif
+
```
</details>
</tool-use>
---
---
GIF requires a palette with transparency. Use one of these:
**Method 1: Two-step (generates palette, then encodes):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,palettegen=reserve_transparent=1" -frames:v 1 rainypet_palette.png
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -i rainypet_palette.png -lavfi "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250[x];[x][1:v]paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128" -an rainypet.gif
del rainypet_palette.png
```
**Method 2: Single command (recommended):**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,split[s0][s1];[s0]palettegen=reserve_transparent=1[p];[s1][p]paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128" -an rainypet.gif
```
**Method 3: With dithering for better quality:**
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,split[s0][s1];[s0]palettegen=reserve_transparent=1:max_colors=256[p];[s1][p]paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128:dither=bayer" -an rainypet.gif
```
The key parts:
- `palettegen=reserve_transparent=1` - Creates a palette that reserves a slot for transparency
- `paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128` - Uses the palette and converts alpha to GIF transparency
- `split[s0][s1]` - Splits the video so one stream generates the palette and the other uses it
Try Method 2 first; it should produce a transparent GIF with proper frame disposal.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
why was the output slowed? @pwsh (908-1053)
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
The palette-based encoding is slower because it:
1. Generates a palette from all frames
2. Applies the palette to each frame
The output shows `pal8` (palette-based), which is correct for transparent GIFs, but the extra processing adds time.
If playback seems slow, the frame timing may be off. Try explicitly setting the frame rate:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,split[s0][s1];[s0]palettegen=reserve_transparent=1[p];[s1][p]paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128" -r 60 -an rainypet.gif
```
Or reduce to 30fps if 60fps is too much:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,fps=30,split[s0][s1];[s0]palettegen=reserve_transparent=1[p];[s1][p]paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128" -r 30 -an rainypet.gif
```
The encoding slowdown is expected due to palette generation. If playback is slow, add `-r 60` (or `-r 30`) to set the output frame rate.
---
_**User (2025-12-26 23:26Z)**_
@pwsh (987-1053) it's still slow
---
_**Agent (model default, mode Agent)**_
---
GIF frame timing may be off. Try normalizing timing and reducing the frame rate:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,fps=30,setpts=PTS-STARTPTS,split[s0][s1];[s0]palettegen=reserve_transparent=1[p];[s1][p]paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128" -r 30 -an rainypet.gif
```
Or try 15fps for smoother playback:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,fps=15,setpts=PTS-STARTPTS,split[s0][s1];[s0]palettegen=reserve_transparent=1[p];[s1][p]paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128" -r 15 -an rainypet.gif
```
Or keep 60fps but normalize timing:
```bash
ffmpeg -y -i rainypet.mov -vf "format=gbrap,format=yuva420p,scale=250:250,setpts=PTS-STARTPTS,split[s0][s1];[s0]palettegen=reserve_transparent=1[p];[s1][p]paletteuse=alpha_threshold=128" -r 60 -an rainypet.gif
```
The `setpts=PTS-STARTPTS` normalizes frame timing, and reducing to 30fps or 15fps can help with GIF playback. Try the 30fps version first.
---
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